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		<title>Watching Kekoa64, Josh Kulp and MysteryGiant for 24 hours &#8211; The mechanics behind the high watcher count</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>estreet</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[eBay pulse]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are three top eBay sellers featured on the eBay Pulse (Pulsers) who have tens of thousands of watchers on their listings: Kekoa64, MysteryGiant, and Josh Kulp (jjfjq). To have this many eBay watchers on a listing, you need: #1. a way to generate the watchers, and #2. a method to keep watchers on an [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are three top eBay sellers featured on the <a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5335819324&amp;customid=blog&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fpulse.ebay.com" title="eBay pulse scam">eBay Pulse</a> (Pulsers) who have tens of thousands of watchers on their listings: <a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5335819324&amp;customid=blog&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2FLEARN-HOW-MY-GIRLFRIEND-I-MAKE-100-HR-IN-OUR-GUIDE_W0QQitemZ300132779342QQcategoryZ102485QQcmdZViewItem" title="Kekoa64 listings ">Kekoa64</a>, <a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5335819324&amp;customid=blog&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2F19-464-44-Just-SLAMMED-into-My-Paypal-Account-guide_W0QQitemZ180144977175QQcategoryZ102483QQcmdZViewItem" title="Mystery Giant eBay listing ">MysteryGiant</a>, and <a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5335819324&amp;customid=blog&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2FIVE-CRACKED-THE-CODE-MAKE-1-400-PER-WEEK-ORIGINAL_W0QQitemZ120154533336QQcategoryZ102485QQcmdZViewItem" title="Josh Kulp  on eBay ">Josh Kulp </a>(jjfjq). To have this many eBay watchers on a listing, you need: #1. a way to generate the watchers, and #2. a method to keep watchers on an eBay listing after it terminates.</p>
<p>I made a discovery on #1 &#8211; how they generate the eBay watchers. <b>Short story: <a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5335819324&amp;customid=blog&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2FLEARN-HOW-MY-GIRLFRIEND-I-MAKE-100-HR-IN-OUR-GUIDE_W0QQitemZ300132779342QQcategoryZ102485QQcmdZViewItem" title="Kekoa64 scam">Kekoa64</a> and <a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5335819324&amp;customid=blog&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2FIVE-CRACKED-THE-CODE-MAKE-1-400-PER-WEEK-ORIGINAL_W0QQitemZ120154533336QQcategoryZ102485QQcmdZViewItem" title="Josh Kulp ebook">Josh Kulp</a> both added 730 watchers in 24 hours. The watchers were generated by an automated software script (a cron job), no people involved at all! </b></p>
<p>Long story: I gathered the watch count data for the 3 most watched eBay listings over the past 24 hours using the <a href="http://www.esellerstreet.com/search.php5?catID=99" title="most watched eBay listings on Pulse">eSeller Street</a> watcher page. The data was gathered in 15 minute increments and in the Central Time zone.<br />
<a href="http://www.esellerstreet.com/search.php5?catID=99" title="Kekoa64, Josh Kulp, MysteryGiant"><img src="http://esellerstreet.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/kekoajoshmys10.jpg" alt="Kekoa64, Josh Kulp, MysteryGiant" /></a></p>
<p>The similarity in Kekoa64&#8217;s and Josh Kulp&#8217;s watchers should jump out at you. Except for the starting number of watchers, kekoa64 -73,026 vs Josh Kulp -56,275, they add watchers in an identical manner. In fact, not only are they using the same automated script, but I think they are using the same server!</p>
<p>Key points on the Kekoa64 watcher chart and the Josh Kulp watcher chart which match the pink numbers (1,2,3,4) on the charts:</p>
<ol>
<li>Both listings get <b>exactly 1 watcher every 90 seconds</b> from 6:15 PM until 4:30 AM CT. I double checked that the watchers were added every 90 seconds by sampling the data every minute.</li>
<li>There is a glitch between 12:00 AM &amp; 12:30 AM. No watchers are added between 12:00 &amp; 12:15, but 2 watchers are added every 90 seconds from 12:15 to 12:30. This leads me to believe they are running on the same server.</li>
<li>Both listings remain at approximately the same watcher number (&lt; 7 additional watchers) between 4:30 AM &amp; 12:15 PM.</li>
<li>At 12:30 PM, each listing starts to get 2 watchers per 90 seconds but then slows down to 1 watcher per 90 seconds.</li>
</ol>
<p>MysteryGiant is not running the script during this period and his chart is completely flat. This is an excellent control case to show that these listings do not get many watchers on their own. His watchers started at 67,602 and ended up just 2 watchers 24 hours later. The next day he started a new listing with 70,937 watchers and incremented it 1 watcher per minute using his own script.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the watch count near the end of the period taken at 5:00pm Dec. 18, 2007.<br />
<a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5335819324&amp;customid=blog&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fpulse.ebay.com"><img src="http://esellerstreet.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/topthree11.jpg" alt="kekoa64, MysteryGiant, Josh Kulp jjfjq watchers on Dec 18, 2007" /></a></p>
<p>Take a look at the actual listings:</p>
<ol>
<li>
<div><a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5335819324&amp;customid=blog&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2FLEARN-HOW-MY-GIRLFRIEND-I-MAKE-100-HR-IN-OUR-GUIDE_W0QQitemZ300132779342QQcategoryZ102485QQcmdZViewItem" title="Kekoa64 ebook">Kekoa64</a></div>
</li>
<li>
<div><a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5335819324&amp;customid=blog&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2FIVE-CRACKED-THE-CODE-MAKE-1-400-PER-WEEK-ORIGINAL_W0QQitemZ120154533336QQcategoryZ102485QQcmdZViewItem" title="Josh Kulp ebook">Josh Kulp</a></div>
</li>
<li>
<div><a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5335819324&amp;customid=blog&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2F19-464-44-Just-SLAMMED-into-My-Paypal-Account-guide_W0QQitemZ180144977175QQcategoryZ102483QQcmdZViewItem" title="Mystery Giant eBay listing">MysteryGiant</a></div>
</li>
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<p>So which URL or link does the software script access every 90 seconds to add a watcher? I don&#8217;t know. I think it has something to do with the guest watcher feature and all of the watchers are just guest watchers.</p>
<p>This script separates the top pulsers from the other sellers who acquire watchers using the embedded &#8220;MakeTrack&#8221; links. The &#8220;eBay Pulse code&#8221; or &#8220;MakeTrack&#8221; trick relies on people visiting your listing so that the listing is forced into your eBay watch list without your knowledge. In contrast, the script adds watchers independent from the number of hits to the listings.</p>
<p>You can see the MakeTrack trick in action on <a href="http://turnkeywebsites4u.com/">http://turnkeywebsites4u.com/</a>. If you visited this site while you were logged into eBay, you are now watching their listing. Look for this HTML code on the page source:<br />
<img src="http://esellerstreet.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/maketrack.jpg" alt="make track trick to get eBay watchers" /><br />
Link 1 calls the eBay MakeTrack URL which tells eBay to save the listing number in your watched items list. Link 2 does the same plus adds an affiliate cookie to your PC so that they get commissions on your eBay purchases. Of course, link 2 violates Commission Junction/eBay policy in that a visitor must take positive action on your site to get a cookie. e.g. Unless a visitor clicks something on your site, you are not supposed to force a cookie on a PC by using a popup window which is similar in nature to using the embed tag.</p>
<p>Well, that&#8217;s a lot to digest for today. MysteryGiant just started a listing with 70,937 watchers last night. That&#8217;s the next piece of the puzzle.</p>
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		<title>Another eBay Pulse manipulator &#8211; Kekoa64 challenged by seller jjfjq</title>
		<link>http://watcheditemendingsoon.com/2007/12/07/another-ebay-pulse-manipulator-seller-jjfjq-has-50000-watchers/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>estreet</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[eBay pulse]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Josh Kulp]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[This listing has gathered over 50,000 watchers in 8 days. Kekoa64 has a challenger: eBay seller jjfjq (Josh Kulp) has a few tricks up his sleeves. Perhaps he&#8217;s been reading The Puls8r&#8217;s paper.
I&#8217;VE CRACKED THE CODE! MAKE $1,400 PER WEEK! &#8211; ORIGINAL

So how are jjfjq&#8217;s sales?
He sold $3,352 in eBooks on eBay from Nov 3-Dec [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This listing has gathered over <b>50,000 watchers in 8 days</b>. Kekoa64 has a challenger: eBay seller jjfjq (Josh Kulp) has a few tricks up his sleeves. Perhaps he&#8217;s been reading <a href="http://esellerstreet.wordpress.com/2007/12/01/outstanding-paper-on-how-sellers-manipulate-ebay-pulse-to-gain-watchers-kekoa64-update/">The Puls8r&#8217;s paper</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5335819324&amp;customid=blogJK&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2FIVE-CRACKED-THE-CODE-MAKE-1-400-PER-WEEK-ORIGINAL_W0QQitemZ120154533099QQcategoryZ102485QQcmdZViewItem" title="Josh Kulp Watchers">I&#8217;VE CRACKED THE CODE! MAKE $1,400 PER WEEK! &#8211; ORIGINAL</a></p>
<p><a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&amp;toolid=10001&amp;campid=5335819324&amp;customid=blogJK&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2FIVE-CRACKED-THE-CODE-MAKE-1-400-PER-WEEK-ORIGINAL_W0QQitemZ120154533099QQcategoryZ102485QQcmdZViewItem" title="Josh Kulp Watchers"><img src="http://esellerstreet.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/joshkulpwatchers2.jpg" alt="Josh Kulp Watchers" /></a></p>
<p>So how are jjfjq&#8217;s sales?</p>
<p>He sold $3,352 in eBooks on eBay from Nov 3-Dec 2, 2007. That&#8217;s $100 per day not subtracting the eBay final value fees. His listing claims you can make $1400 per week or $200 per day so supposedly he sells an equal amount off-eBay. His feedback is very good so I guess the buyers are happy with his product.</p>
<p>Josh Kulp has been working at it for a long time and I do think he is knowledgeable. <a href="http://www.associateprograms.com/articles/58/1/Soaring-profits-for-Josh-Kulp">http://www.associateprograms.com/articles/58/1/Soaring-profits-for-Josh-Kulp</a></p>
<p>Is this a scam? Probably not.<br />
Can an average person make $1,400 a week? Probably not.</p>
<p>Perhaps Kekoa64 or jjfjq is The Puls8r?!?</p>
<p>Update 12/19: Hah! <a href="http://esellerstreet.wordpress.com/2007/12/19/watching-kekoa64-josh-kulp-and-mysterygiant-for-24-hours-the-mechanics-behind-the-high-watcher-count/">Caught them. </a></p>
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		<title>Outstanding paper on how sellers manipulate eBay pulse to gain watchers &#8211; Kekoa64 update</title>
		<link>http://watcheditemendingsoon.com/2007/12/01/outstanding-paper-on-how-sellers-manipulate-ebay-pulse-to-gain-watchers-kekoa64-update/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 22:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>estreet</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Get Rich Quick schemes]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recall my post on Kekoa64, the eBay seller of e-books on making $100 per hour. I could not figure out how they got 65K watchers on a Buy-It-Now.
This is one of the best, and most well-written papers, on eBay I have ever come across. http://www.oktshun.com/ebooks/Making_the_Pulse_Pages.pdf It&#8217;s about how eBay sellers get watchers and manipulate the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recall my post on Kekoa64, the eBay seller of e-books on making $100 per hour. I could not figure out how they got 65K watchers on a Buy-It-Now.</p>
<p>This is one of the best, and most well-written papers, on eBay I have ever come across. <a href="http://www.oktshun.com/ebooks/Making_the_Pulse_Pages.pdf">http://www.oktshun.com/ebooks/Making_the_Pulse_Pages.pdf</a> It&#8217;s about how eBay sellers get watchers and manipulate the <a href="http://pulse.ebay.com/">eBay pulse</a> page.</p>
<p>There are diagrams of tactics and strategies worthy of an MBA course. I don&#8217;t recommend duping buyers with these techniques (unless you are a narcissistic, self-centered thug that could rob their mother and sleep well at night). Kudos to mystery person, <b>The Puls8r</b>, for enlightening us &#8211; whoever they are.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a couple of very interesting discussions on kekoa64 <a href="http://www.topix.com/forum/us/TNETHG2EJHKDNR3ON">FBI scam alert</a> and <a href="http://blogs.ebay.ca/shartey/entry/I-wonder-why-kekoa64-deleted-my-post-about-his-eba/_W0QQidZ144774014">shartey&#8217;s blog</a>.</p>
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		<title>What is the deal with this seller? Clue me in</title>
		<link>http://watcheditemendingsoon.com/2007/11/24/what-is-the-deal-with-this-seller-clue-me-in/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>estreet</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Get Rich Quick schemes]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kekoa64 is very strange.  They have the most watchers &#8211; 64,000 watchers &#8211; of any listing on eBay.
Here&#8217;s what it is:

kekoa64 sales statistics show they actually do sell $6K a month in &#8220;Make $100 per hour&#8221; guides.
Someone clue me in.  What&#8217;s the deal with this listing?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-71/1?AID=5463217&amp;PID=2030695&amp;SID=Blog&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2FLEARN-HOW-MY-GIRLFRIEND-I-MAKE-100-HR-IN-OUR-GUIDE_W0QQitemZ300132779056QQcategoryZ102485QQcmdZViewItem"><b>Kekoa64</b></a> is very strange.  They have the most watchers &#8211; 64,000 watchers &#8211; of any listing on eBay.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what it is:<br />
<a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-71/1?AID=5463217&amp;PID=2030695&amp;SID=Blog&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2FLEARN-HOW-MY-GIRLFRIEND-I-MAKE-100-HR-IN-OUR-GUIDE_W0QQitemZ300132779056QQcategoryZ102485QQcmdZViewItem" title="Make $100 per hour"><img src="http://esellerstreet.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/kekoa64.png" alt="Make $100 per hour" /></a></p>
<p>kekoa64 sales statistics show they actually do sell $6K a month in &#8220;Make $100 per hour&#8221; guides.</p>
<p>Someone clue me in.  What&#8217;s the deal with this listing?</p>
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